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From: Paul
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 20:41:10 +0000
Subject: Re: [TSSP] Primary gap questions

Paul wrote:
> >Looking at some of Terry's scope traces in
> >
> > http://hot-streamer.com/TeslaCoils/MyPapers/spark1/sparkgap.html
> >
> >we seem to be seeing the gap extinguish and re-ignite on
> >every zero crossing of the primary current - is that correct?

Terry wrote:

> Wha...  You think I make this stuff up :-)))
> 
> The zero crossing spikes are very real.  As the current flow
> reverses, the gap goes out and has to be re-lite with a bit of
> a bang.

For some reason I always assumed that AC arcs kept their ionisation
between half-cycles. The fact that they are mini-bangs means that
the breakover voltage is lower than for the gap starting from 'cold',
so something survives over the zero-crossing. I guess at higher
frequencies most of the ionization would remain from cycle to cycle
and there would be less of a hiatus as the current reversed.

Barry wrote:
> There ought to be an initial loss due to channel formation
> (resistive loss). 

All in all, does this formation loss contribute much to gap loss?

Barry wrote:
> Succeeding losses are possibly caused by plasma maintenance,
> ionizations and reionizations at the voltage reversals, and
> cathode spot formation and reformation on the opposite electrodes
> at voltage reversals.

I suppose that energy must be taken continuously to maintain
ionisation as heat and light are lost from the gap. Can losses
be reduced by surrounding the gap with a reflective cylinder?

If the gap is operated at a higher air pressure, I believe the
breakdown voltage goes up. Does the Vcond also go up with
increasing pressure?

Barry wrote:
> ...a scheme that I am still pondering...
> two spark gaps...each gap is isolated by a high voltage high
> "pulse" current diode...force the gaps to be unidirectional..

Perhaps a single gap could be placed across the DC terminals of
a bridge rectifier to achieve the same effect?

--
Paul Nicholson,
Manchester, UK.
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Maintainer Paul Nicholson, paul@abelian.demon.co.uk.