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From: "Terrell W. Fritz"
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 15:11:07 -0700
Subject: Re: [TSSP] Reactive part of base input impedance

Hi Paul,

For the bare small-coil no top-probe I get:

Q = 170.03

f1 = 358.81
	V = 0.47218 (corrected scope)
	I = 2.6234 mA

f45low = 357.87
	V = 0.48419 (corrected scope)
	I = 1.9908 mA

f45high = 359.89
	V = 0.48419 (corrected scope)
	I = 1.8823 mA


At 06:15 PM 2/17/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>If the base input impedance is described, in the vicinity of
>f1, by
>
>  Zin = Rin + jXin
>
>where
>
>  Xin(w) = j(wLin - 1/wCin)
>         = jwLin( 1 - (w'/w)^2)
>
>and w' is 2 * pi * f1, we might be forgiven for assuming that
>the equivalent input reactances are given by
>
>  Lin = Les
>  Cin = Ces
>
>However the model flatly insists that the correct values are
>
>  Lin = Lee
>  Cin = Les * Ces/Lee
>
>so that
>
>  Zin(w) = Rin + j(wLee - Lee/wLesCes)
>         = Rin + jwLee( 1 - (w'/w)^2)
>
>I've been trying to account algebraically for Lee appearing
>in here - perhaps I'm missing some obvious fundamental relationship 
>between the energy storage ability of a resonator and the slope
>of it's reactance near resonance. Any suggestions?
>
>Perhaps a measurement would settle the matter? Terry, I think
>you're the only one with a signal generator precise enough to
>do this test. This would involve simultaneously probing 
>base volts and base current. Note the frequency at which the
>two are exactly in phase, call that f1, and then find the
>frequencies either side at which the phase difference is
>+/- 45 degrees. From this, together with a Q measurement, we can
>work out the effective value of Lin and see whether it equals
>Les or Lee. Best done on the un-probed bare small coil, as the
>difference between Lee and Les is the greatest.
>
>I've been reconfiguring the model to look at output impedance,
>with the eventual goal, in the next installment of 'theory notes',
>of being able to write down a thorough lumped equivalent circuit
>for the secondary.
>
>Cheers,
>--
>Paul Nicholson,
>Manchester, UK.
>--


Maintainer Paul Nicholson, paul@abelian.demon.co.uk.