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From: Kurt Schraner
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:46:52 +0200
Subject: Re: [TSSP] Short Coil Experiments

Hi Paul, all,

the new measurements of the d=0.385m; h/d=1.15 coil are available now.
The main difference to the former measurements is the availability of a
better defined ground plane, in form of a galvanized wire mesh (3.4 x
2.8 m, approx.). For comparison I repeated measurements for 2 of my
formerly tested coils. I'm not able to attribute the fairly big
differences in f1, relative to the February tests, however I'm not very
trustful to my RF-generator equipment, - not regarding frequency, but
impedance. I've to investigate in this. The low-Z amplifier too seems
not to work properly. And even my outdoor-situation is rather
constrained space: The housewall is only about 1.5m away, and garden
plants disturb the free space on the other side ~1.5m away. The new
measurements however, should not be worse than my last ones. I'm yet
quite unhappy with the precision :-(.

Your support to prepare the tests, Paul, was, like ever, great!

Cheers
       Kurt


Measurements of June 12/13th, 2001

  Outdoor measurements with distance to groundplane ~ 0.5m

Date            12.06.01    12.06.01    13.06.01    13.06.01
Coil            Sk-38cm     Sk-38cm     Sk-38cm      Sk-38cm
turns           346
L @ 1 kHz       28.12 mH
Q @ 1 kHz       17.3
DC resist.R     9.2   Ohm    dito       dito        dito
h               0.44  m
d               0.384 m
b               0.435 m
awg
wd(insulated)   1.2   mm   ( 1.0 mm blank wire)


Probe:           Ant.   base curr. Ant.    Ant.    Paul's   Error
RF Generator:    Low Z   Low Z    Siemens Siemens predicted cal-exp%
Fres,exp f 1:    217.95  217.866  221.3  221.24  230.3  kHz  4.10%
Higher   f 3:    505.57  503.173  506.5  506.17  556.9  kHz  10.02%
f 5:                              748.76 747.42  881.6  kHz  17.95%
f 7: questionable values ---->    831    847     1221.1 kHz  44.17%
f 9:                                             1569.1 kHz
 
Bandwidth and Q
f 1:             218.04           221.3  221.24 kHz
71% f 1+:        219.04           222.43 222.33 kHz
71% f 1-:        216.95           220.22 220.07 kHz
Q :              104.3            100.1   97.9
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  Outdoor measurements with distance to groundplane ~ 0.5m

Date    old:10.02.01    new:13.06.01       10.02.01 12.06.01 13.06.01
Coil        Sk-5cm  Sk-5cm   Sk-5cm Sk-5cm Sk-Long  Sk-Long  Sk-Long
turns       934                             1976
L @ 1 kHz   5.203  mH                       67.7   mH
Q @ 1 kHz   1.52
DC resist.R 21.7  Ohm dito   dito   dito    55.2  Ohm  dito   dito
h           0.411  m                        1.402  m
d           0.0511 m                        0.161  m
b           0.503  m                        0.5    m
awg         26.108                          22.053
wd(insul.)  0.425  mm                       0.64   mm

Fres,cal f1:1068.4    Paul's                158    Paul's
Diff        16.80%    cal-exp               -2.10% cal-exp

Fres,cal f1:923.8    Wh./Medh.              139.3  Wh./Medh.
Diff        1.00%    cal-exp               -13.70% cal-exp
 
Probe:     Ant.     Ant.     Ant.   Ant.    Ant.    Ant.   Ant.
RF Gen.:  Siemens  Siemens  Heath  Heath   Siemens Low Z  Siemens
Fres,f 1:   914.76  979.72   969.8 970.94  161.45  152.34  152.27 kHz
RF Gen.:           Heath    Heath  Heath
f 3:               2428.7  2430.77 2430.44 386.43  387.157 387.1  kHz
f 5:               5300    5299.8  5283    562.04  564.216 564.42 kHz
f 7:               6924.6  6918.3          710.32  713     713.39 kHz
f 9:               8643.1  8580            ~847    850     850.9  kHz
f 11:                                      972.94  973.27         kHz
 
Bandwidth and Q
f 1:                                               152.268  kHz
71% f 1+:                                          152.716  kHz
71% f 1 -:                                         151.79   kHz
Q                                                  164.436
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Equipment:
Siemens --> Siemens Level Oscillator W2087 (200Hz...1620kHz)
(buildt-in f-counter with XXXX.XX kHz display)
HP 180A Dual Channel Oscilloscope (50MHz)
Escort ELC-131D  LCR Meter (for L+Q @ 1kHz and 120Hz)
Metex M-3860M Digital Multimeter (for R with DC)
Heath --> Heathkit Laboratory RF Generator
Low-Z Amplifier 0...700kHz (Terry's; with Op.Amp.LM12CLK)
Ant.  --> Antenna, 1.2 m distance from coil
Ground: (zinc-)galvanized iron-mesh(13mm mesh) 3.4 x 2.8 m
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Maintainer Paul Nicholson, paul@abelian.demon.co.uk.