From: "Barton B. Anderson"
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:17:29 -0700
Subject: Re: [TSSP] F A N T C: - It's NEW! - and needs some TSSP input
--Boundary_(ID_IVubwBjT9WLC8f26+PbKhw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi Paul, Ran a detail (4) in Fantc: BTW, with a detail = Time elapsed: 3529.5 secs (900Mhz chugg) fantc tssp measured Fres(kHz) 236.82 234.9 238 kHz Lee(mH) 18.14 18.44 Les(mH) 18.44 18.69 Ldc(mH) 18.85 18.84 18.67 Cee(pF) 23.70 24.23 Ces(pF) 24.56 24.57 Cdc(pF) 37.31 37.50 So yes, it converges toward tssp as you mentioned. Ran fantc at det 2 (236.5kHz, odd it's lower). If I maintain the groundplane and ceiling radius as averaged (103"), but put the nearest wall radius (64"), I get 234.49kHz. I suspect the largest portion of discrepancy is due to the coil weighted to one side of the surroundings. When I finish the misc. testing in the garage, I'll setup outside, throw down a flat metal groundplane (old railroad crossing sign) and go through the measurements again. Take care, Bart Paul wrote: > Nice agreement, but not typical at the details setting of 1. > Compared with tssp we get: > > fantc tssp meas > f1 238.22 kHz 234.9 kHz 238 kHz > > Lee 18.23 mH 18.44 mH > Les 18.55 mH 18.69 mH > Ldc 19.28 mH 18.84 mH 18.67 mH > > Cee 23.45 pF 24.23 mH > Ces 24.42 pF 24.57 mH > Cdc 36.46 pF 37.50 mH > > so a little out, and we'd expect fantc to converge towards tssp as > the detail setting is raised. > -- > Paul Nicholson, > -- --Boundary_(ID_IVubwBjT9WLC8f26+PbKhw) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi Paul,Ran a detail (4) in Fantc:
BTW, with a detail = Time elapsed: 3529.5 secs (900Mhz chugg)fantc tssp measured
Fres(kHz) 236.82 234.9 238 kHz
Lee(mH) 18.14 18.44
Les(mH) 18.44 18.69
Ldc(mH) 18.85 18.84 18.67
Cee(pF) 23.70 24.23
Ces(pF) 24.56 24.57
Cdc(pF) 37.31 37.50So yes, it converges toward tssp as you mentioned.
Ran fantc at det 2 (236.5kHz, odd it's lower).If I maintain the groundplane and ceiling radius as averaged (103"), but put the nearest wall radius (64"), I get 234.49kHz. I suspect the largest portion of discrepancy is due to the coil weighted to one side of the surroundings. When I finish the misc. testing in the garage, I'll setup outside, throw down a flat metal groundplane (old railroad crossing sign) and go through the measurements again.
Take care,
BartPaul wrote:
Nice agreement, but not typical at the details setting of 1.--Boundary_(ID_IVubwBjT9WLC8f26+PbKhw)--
Compared with tssp we get:fantc tssp meas
f1 238.22 kHz 234.9 kHz 238 kHzLee 18.23 mH 18.44 mH
Les 18.55 mH 18.69 mH
Ldc 19.28 mH 18.84 mH 18.67 mHCee 23.45 pF 24.23 mH
Ces 24.42 pF 24.57 mH
Cdc 36.46 pF 37.50 mHso a little out, and we'd expect fantc to converge towards tssp as
the detail setting is raised.
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Paul Nicholson,
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Maintainer Paul Nicholson, paul@abelian.demon.co.uk.