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From: Greg Leyh
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:46:32 -0700
Subject: Re: [TSSP] F A N T C: - It's NEW! - and needs some TSSP input

At 11:59 PM 10/14/2002, Paul wrote:
>Well I hope everyone is busy plugging their coil details
>into Fantc to check it out.  With 24 members on the list
>there should be at least 24 coils to test :)


I tried out the stats for the final design set on Electrum.
The FANTC program seems to have hit it spot on... certainly
well within the error bars of my actual measurements.

Here's the actual measurements from the final setup:

Lpri = 66.7uH
Lsec = 130mH
Coupling k = ~0.12 to 0.13
Fo (with sphere) = 37.92kHz


Here's the program results.  I used a detail level of 3.
I'm assuming that both the current and voltage profiles
are normalized to a base current of 1A?

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Running F A N T C version x.6 using core functions of G E O T C version: 2.0

Computing ..... please wait
Primary Inductance (L1): 65.995 uH
Run Complete
Time elapsed: 1.8 secs

Secondary Inductance (L2): 123.144 mH
Run Complete
Time elapsed: 2.4 secs

Mutual Inductance (L1,L2): 392.31 uH
Coupling Coefficient(K): 0.138
Run Complete
Time elapsed: 5.8 secs

Secondary Resonant Frequency: 38.32 kHz
Secondary Voltages and Currents
I[0]=1.01 I[1]=1.01 I[2]=1.02 I[3]=1.03 I[4]=1.03 I[5]=1.04 I[6]=1.04 
I[7]=1.04 I[8]=1.04 I[9]=1.03 I[10]=1.03 I[11]=1.02 I[12]=1.02 I[13]=1.01 
I[14]=1 I[15]=0.99 I[16]=0.98 I[17]=0.97 I[18]=0.96 I[19]=0.94 I[20]=0.93 
I[21]=0.91 I[22]=0.89 I[23]=0.88 I[24]=0.86 I[25]=0.84 I[26]=0.81 
I[27]=0.79 I[28]=0.77 I[29]=0.75 V[0]=145.07 V[1]=498.03 V[2]=1382.33 
V[3]=2374.08 V[4]=3430.69 V[5]=4528.87 V[6]=5654.33 V[7]=6797.6 
V[8]=7952.09 V[9]=9112.88 V[10]=10276.16 V[11]=11438.8 V[12]=12598.14 
V[13]=13751.82 V[14]=14897.68 V[15]=16033.67 V[16]=17157.83 V[17]=18268.16 
V[18]=19362.6 V[19]=20438.93 V[20]=21494.67 V[21]=22526.87 V[22]=23531.84 
V[23]=24504.67 V[24]=25438.39 V[25]=26322.44 V[26]=27139.57 V[27]=27858.14 
V[28]=28142.63 V[29]=28259.35
Energy Storage Inductance (Lee): 114.3 mH
Effective Series Inductance (Les): 117.38 mH
Low Frequency Inductance (Ldc): 123.14 mH
Energy Storage Capacitance (Cee): 141.21 pF
Effective Shunt Capacitance (Ces): 147.44 pF
Low Frequency Capacitance (Cdc): 272.11 pF
Total Topload Capacitance (Ctop): 102.25 pF
Run Complete
Time elapsed: 86.3 secs
---------------------------------------------

The discrepancy of about 0.01 in the coupling is well within
the noise...  I remember that the coupling was *incredibly*
sensitive to primary altitude.  A shift in altitude of one inch
yielded a coupling shift of about 0.01.

FANTC appears to be an excellent program.  The data entry
portion is clean and relatively straightforward, and the
results are amazingly accurate.  Given the complexity of the
system being modeled, I'm actually downright astounded that
a modeling program could get that close... I rarely if ever
have that kind of luck with EM modeling software on the first try.



Maintainer Paul Nicholson, paul@abelian.demon.co.uk.